Where two rivers meet

[Asclepius]

His eyes followed the indication of the fingerless gloves, a smirk slightly showing. “Curious then... I suppose then today just isn't your day, be it the weather or just how the fish swim today or you know some other unseen factor. Speaking of the weather, your finger tips must be real cold in those.” I wonder, Spirits did come in all shapes and sizes, would one house themselves here? Something for another time maybe.

Eyes turning to Skye catching the gentle smile as she turned away. “Something tells me it could never be too cold for you to sleep in a hammock, I can imagine you saying something along the lines of ' my hair is perfectly camouflaged with the snow and therefore I would be perfectly safe and snug to sleep in a hammock'.” He nodded to her detailed routine. “Sounds like quite the workout still but nothing is gained from being lax. In answer to your question, I am out here just for the exercise I have no need to run against the clock. Plus as I said it allows me to kill two birds with one stone. Keeping an eye on the city and locations always bring surprises, but don't worry I always pack to prepare for most situations.”

His attention brought back to Chambers as the question is asked about saunas. The Arrow himself had little experience with saunas personally but speaking from his medical knowledge he could guess the reason. “I will not go too in-depth here, but, if I recall correctly it is because the saunas allow relax the muscles. Typically when you work out the muscles, you strengthen them by resistance training. When you do that they become sore as they repair themselves and then it makes them better at taking the resistance you subjected it to. When your workout is done, you jump into a sauna to help dilate the blood vessels and increase oxygen circulation around the body. This helps reduce soreness and ease the tension of the muscles.” Doing his best to speak in terms of which people could understand, but a curious look was given to Skye. “I haven't seen any in town currently but if you find one let me know. I have not been in one and it sounds like a good time.” It would be a nice stopping place for after a run.

[Chambers]

Dead baiting was common practice in fishing but only if your going for much larger catches, far larger then he needed. "Why not just cook the mackerel?" The question quietly directed to Skye, after all if you have a fish that you use to catch another fish it did seem like a rather unnecessarily complex plan.

A soft smirk of humour as Asclepius says its not his day. "That could be it, or I could just be worse at this than I thought." Given he did have a small magical advantage to help with both parts of that equation it really mustn't be his day. "Sure but try reeling in quickly while wearing gloves, anything you hook would likely be off and away by the time you get into the rhythm." That was simply a sacrifice of fishing.

Saunas were not his thing exactly but even he had stumbled across advertisement for them and spa days just by existing in the city. "They are around without question, I can't speak to quality I've never been." And did not plan to, not really his cup of tea. "But the why makes sense." So not exactly a lazy mans thing to do anyway. "I would have to guess a traditional Turkish bath works in a similar way." Although the roots of that might be more cultural and hygienic then for muscle development.

[Asclepius]

A smirk returned, it was good to see he took the comment well. “I suppose that is all a matter of perspective. How good did you think you were at it? Either way, we all have days where our skills don't match up to the outcomes we want. At least for this we can take a small blessing it was for recreation and not a serious matter.” He looked to the rod as it was being packed away. “When you put it like that, using something that cumbersome to try and perform something that needs a dexterous hand is next to impossible. I never thought that fishing needed rhythm to perform successfully.” Again on the count of not doing it before.

He nodded to Chambers sentiments on the topic of spa's. “Well if they are around, then I guess I will have to stop in on one.” Being as he had not been to one himself, he would certainly need to do some research before attending. “If you don't mind the question, How do you like to unwind and de-stress? Other then fishing of course.” If he kept it to himself then so be it.

[Chambers]

Not a fan of things being a matter of perspective, not when he knew absolute truths excited, even if he did not fully grasp them. "I am as good as I am which is probably different to how good I think I am, but is the truth of the matter." Self praise being no recommendation after all. "But I would place myself at squarely mediocre." Able to catch a fish most of the time but far from taking on anything challenging. "Preparation and timing play large parts in fishing. Both areas I do show skill in, but yes seem to have difficulty translating across." It was just a matter of practice.

If the arrow wanted to visit a sauna he was more then welcome, not something to high on Chambers to do list. "I read, I craft, I study, I cook. Among other things." Everything he did need to have a purpose of course none of it took the form of what most people would consider recreation. "Yourself?" Expecting just as vague an answer.

[Skye]

Raising her eyebrow, hands upon her chest slightly to the right with a step backwards, attempting to put on her best offended face whilst shying backward.
”My dear Knight, what do you think of me?” Raising up her hand with slow gentle motions of her fingers to display her skin color. ”I would attest that my entire body, both skin and hair are perfectly suitable for winter camouflage and I can get damn near invisible in the right circumstances.” Nodding with a look towards the water. ”Sounds good, never really enjoyed time keeping myself, to much hindrance. Just push all you can when it is right and do not get boggled down by numbers.” They just ruined you more often than they helped. ”Not really, today was a lax day, I might have been fortunate to be born with muscles that quickly recuperate but they still should not be pushed to hard if I wanna see proper gain. So sometimes it is best to just keep them active enough to keep their current metabolic and building state without pushing them.” Nodding with a light smile whilst taking mental notes for their next meeting in a more secure area.

Now that was about what she had heard from the ones at the gym about it, and not really speaking to the parts she had hoped to gain a deeper insight to but it did confirm it at least.
”I would assume most higher tier gyms have one, along with any bath house that is not to cheap, otherwise country clubs or spas. Never really been to either myself, or no wait, I did spend some time in a country club my mistake apologies.” Had been a while and she had not fit in but unimportant tale. ”I do guess you are right there, but Turkish bath and saunas overall when not used for exercise is also a normal way for many to socialize.” More common in some parts of the world than others of course, and eyes back to her fellow arrow. ”It´s the season, maybe consider inviting a friend from work, I hear its quite uncommon for men to gift men with such an experience so it could definitely display you in a good light.”

Eyes over towards the Hierarch.
”Bigger catch, inedible parts, testing the waters, extending a fishing moment in a manner no one would think much of, taste preferences of the ones you catch for, aiming for ones that keeps better, pick any.”

[Asclepius]

He smiled, he knew Skye was not being serious as she had done this before, at another time and another place. “I think, until proven otherwise that you are an exceptional person that thrives in the wild and can utilised all your skills to camouflage yourself exceedingly well.” Keeping time was never something he considered as a good practice, it made you clock watch. “I agree, there is a certain lesson of disciple when it comes to getting your body to the level of tiredness that demands rest. It is certainly a better practice then timing every activity.” The light smile noted, as it was always good to see they agreed on matter of training and how to achieve what they wanted.

A bit of an awkward look given at the suggestion of inviting someone from work. “Well, I would but most have families to return home to. That is usually on their agenda once a shift Is over for them, I have nothing against that of course. Besides the only gifts I have ever given out was soccer tickets to a local team years ago.” Something of minor importance to him but more said as an example of a usual gift given.

Eyes look over to chambers, a pause is given to fully process his words on the matter of self evaluation. “It is certainly a good way to sort of put it. I know that the best critique of ones self, is yourself. However I do believe there is some merit to talking yourself up when proven to be the best at something among others. Not loudly of course, but I believe that allowing your ego to bathe in a form of glory to be somewhat helpful for the self esteem. On a somewhat related matter, do you both believe that the saying ' the nail that sticks out gets hammered', can apply to someones skill in performing a task in the company of others? As in, do you believe it to be better to hide talents that you excel in when around other people, as to not stand out socially.” He took a few moments to ponder Chambers question. “Well, I too have been doing a little reading, for self improvement but I have put that on the back burner a little bit. It has mostly been studying and training various different topics for me as of late.” His eyes went over to his fellow Arrow. “What about you? Other then skateboarding of course, what do you get up to in your spare time? ”

[Chambers]

When he had first arrived in the city and for some time after attempts at improving fitness had been made, but now there was always something that needed doing and even those begrudging efforts had fallen away. So it is not until the topic of the bath houses comes around again that Chambers has much to contribute. "I would advise going alone first, better to know what your getting into." A polite way of saying not to get to involved with sleepers if it could be helped. Particularly in vulnerable settings.

His attention moving first to Skye as she looks to him. "Sorry what was that?" Not sure what or why he would be picking from that list. The glance turning quizzical.

A glance that is maintained as Asclepius gets into more depth. Bit of an odd one isn't he. But then again most mages could be considered odd by definition. "Personally no, I think allowing the ego to bath in its own self proclaimed glories is one of the fastest paths to failure." The quizzical glance moves closer to confusion. "I'm not sure that is how that phrase is intended to be used but I think I understand the question." And his answer was simple. "My views on the matter are simple, you should strive for excellence in all things, I would not allow myself to deceive others into believing I am more or less skilled then I am." That did not mean those talents, skills or abilities were at the beck and call of whoever so wished them. "It is only by such striving that we improve past previous limitations." Of course the form of the effort may not be recognisable in all cases but Chambers never hides that he is always acting in pursuit of one or more goals.

[Skye]

Bending both of her arms to have her palms up by her shoulders.
”I didn´t grow up in the woods for nothing.” Chuckling to herself. ”Now I must admit though that actually having my own room has been one of the weirdest sensations since starting to settle down in this city.” Sleeping inside in winter sure, but her own room now that was odd. ”Precisely, although I might be contradicting myself. Some workouts does take better when having a steady timing as my 2-1 exercise I mentioned.” Not sure if it had been grasped right though. ”Knowing how to shift gears and not burning oneself out is a valuable skill, just as I am sure you add some fartlek legs training to your runs?”

Well that backfired.
”Soccer tickets? Cant say I have ever seen a game, played myself sure but not seen one. Then again I do not watch a lot of team sports. Are they enjoyable?” Gymnastics and archery sure but those were both individual. ”But hey Christmas is nearly upon us.” Grinning in a teaseful manner toward the Hierarch. ”Maybe take Fy..Sorry our fisherman here with you.” Winking with a light chuckle, not wanting to risk the jest being taken wrong.

Keeping her eyes upon Chambers with a meeting of the quizzical look, not quite sure what was so strange.
”Did you not ask as to why not just cock the mackerel? Well all of those are reasons as to why.”

Unable to do anything but raise an eyebrow at the question by the arrow.
”I am 5ft tall” Gently lifting the edges of her white hair. ”this has been my natural hair color since before I can remember, and I have a penchant for moving around and doing odd things at will. The choice was never really there for me.” And having a family that was literally labeled weird did not help. ”Conforming for social acceptance by hiding your skills is just dimming ones own light. Good when you need to blend in for a moment sure, awful at most other times.” Ohh now this was a question. ”I have my crafting hobby, I have the gym, I have been looking into adding some new exercises, my job is almost more of a hobby, I finally learned when the next book in my favorite series is coming out, and any spare time I have goes into studying, being a dān tóu liánhuā does offer me some freedom.”

[Asclepius]

Wise words were offered by the Hierarch, and he certainly agreed with the comment. “Of course. It is always awkward to do an activity when you don't know if it is safe to do with others, besides my colleagues are not close enough to me for that kind of thing.” He knew what the Hierarch was really cautioning of course. It was one thing to venture out with a fellow mage to an unknown setting but to do so with a sleeper was dangerous.
A look of genuine intrigue as Chambers offered his words on the question posed. This was why he had asked the question, to gain insights from another point of view, and chambers offered a perspective on things he had not considered. “It certainly does lead to a lot of situations where you overestimate a situation if your ego is left unchecked.” A nod of understanding to Chambers further comments about the incorrect use of the phrase. “You are probably right, but I am glad you understood what I meant anyway.” As for the comment itself. “I have a similar viewpoint, but I do find that I lean a little more towards over selling myself a little bit, because I believe I can achieve more then my limits allow, if I dedicate myself to the task.” He offered a smile and looked out to the water that flowed past them. “I agree, I usually push until I hit a wall that I can't find a way past, and then seek out a friend to help push through it.” Sometimes the biggest hurdle to over come is yourself.

His eyes went over to his fellow Arrow. “I bet is must feel strange, if you miss having company around and having to share a room.”
It was not something he looked into because he simply worked the muscles until he felt he had done enough. “I do add some element of it to some degree, when needed on some runs.” It was not a surprise to him that Skye had not seen a game, there was some soccer games that were played over here, but nothing to the same amount as in Europe. At least that is what he figured with his limited research. “They are okay honestly. A bit hit or miss when it comes to the actual sport, but the atmosphere is certainly easy to get sucked into. If a goal is scored or a goal is conceded, the emotion of the crowd is unified. The pride and dedication of some of the fans to their chosen teams is commendable.” He offered a simple and exaggerated eye roll to her comments of taking chambers with him. “I would think you would be more likely to go to one of these places, given your interest. It is fine though, time is limited and there is much to sort out still as well.” So much of his time was spend training for the problems that loomed just out of sight.
He simply sat and listened to Skye talk about herself and standing out, not needed to add comment here as he could not find the right words to add. He could certainly understand Skye's view point on his question. A light chuckle is given to her answer. “It is good for blending in. As bad as it feels sometimes to know I can do more. However it is unsafe to do so and is a hard choice to make, but the consequences are much worse.” It does not help that his job could leave him feeling like he had to choose who lived and who died. He listened with interest to Skye's hobbies and activities. “I see, so what new exercises are you looking to add.”

[Chambers]

Catching Skye's slip, not one she had made for some time it still is treated with the same level of derision, a simple refusal to acknowledge whatever she had directed at him until a form of address he acknowledged was used. That includes not saying anything on the matter to Asclepius. It's as Skye had said nothing at all. Cruel, maybe but his views on the mattered had been made clear and if not respected this would be the result.

Given Asclepius was willing to step for the duel, that he over sold himself was quite apparent, and not in small ways either. "But how can you dedicate yourself to a task that you believe yourself to better at then you are?" Why would seek improvement if you already thought yourself highly capable? "Teamwork has it's advantages and can on occasion prove necessary yes." But knowledge had a price, had to be earnt and simple reliance on others was a dangerous thing.