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x2 cast of scribe final name, reconfigure Imago, reimagine imagoOnce all the councillors or stand in councillors have been chosen they can come here to discuss the agenda
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Status x2 cast of scribe final name, reconfigure Imago, reimagine imagoMoving off to the area he had cleared ahead of time for the councillors to handle matters he hopes the others will join him and it will be swift well aware Corn's mess had caused the day to wear on. Hands folded behind his back the Moros councillor is in his thoughts.
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Arriving promptly following the conclusion of their path's business, Joyeuse folds their hands behind their back. Their dark eyes rest on Chambers for a moment before they lightly clear their throat to get his attention.
"The Path of the Mighty have convened and agreed that I shall represent us as Councilor," they said, "I'm know it goes without saying, but we should aim to come to a consensus with this matter quickly. It is good to see we at least agree in that regard. I doubt we will have time for a thorough discussion, but I personally believe we should aim to leave here with at least the beginnings of our response decided upon."
Their gaze shifts back to the crowd, musing with their own thoughts as they and Chambers wait for the others.
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Philip went over to join Chambers and Joyeuse, nodding to each respectfully. Corn`s antics were beginning to annoy him. And he was beginning to wonder if he was more trouble than he was worth, with the seeming lie of omission caught by Skye, among others, adding to a growing list of inconsistencies. Perhaps it`s just as well Winter interrogate him. It`s fortunate the other Moros aren`t fools like him. And here I thought that was my tarot... he thought, with no small amount of internal satisfaction, although he eyed the councilors with a piercing gaze and deadpan expression reserved for only the most serious of discussions, nodding to Joyeuse`s good point on the urgency of getting to a decision quickly.
"It seems congratulations are in order to you both on being elected councilors. I`m only an interim, like I said earlier."
He left the rest unsaid, unsure whether to start without the other councilors present. But he did say a bit, knowing they weren`t completely private anyway.
"I feel much was already said in the group discussion, both for and against."
he left out So, how do you feel about it, and him? believing he had a pretty good idea how the councilors felt about what and who was being discussed, although he expected Corn couldn`t be the only thing on the agenda for this conference. He was a bit disappointed not more topics were discussed. But at least leadership was now at least partially sorted, but, if anything, Philip was against the position of Hierarch, although he felt starting that discussion then would be too forward. Best to gauge the waters and the mood of the others, first, before committing to anything.
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Walking over, "I've said my peace on the matter, and my stance has not changed. I'm willing to assist here in case there is an attack, as a Life Master I feel my skills are best suited to bolster those defending us." and as a Spirit Master, she could tap other resources as well. But that bit was kept to herself.
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Status x2 cast of scribe final name, reconfigure Imago, reimagine imagoJoyeuse addressing him pulls his attention he does not smile or greet warmly as tends to be his custom the days events warranted something less cordial, more direct. "Congratulations." Not entirely bereft of manners but certainly a brisk acknowledgement of the appointment that had just occurred.
Philip and Aurora join. Salem does not, he not having offered contributions since his chat with his path mate Eidolon, who is after his bit hot headed speech now seems to be trying to set all manner of things in motion. Another factor compounding the already diminishing time frame.
He takes only a few more seconds to contemplate, to put the pieces into order in his head. "Okay. My thoughts on the issues at hand." Salem can still hear, if he has serious objections or input he can speak up. "Corn does not leave the circle for any reason. Winter can interrogate Corn as he sees fit to get to the truth and cut out the layers of nonsense and inconsistency with have here." The Moros councillor has fewer compunctions about torture it seems. "For information relating to this situation." The one who is misleading us has no say in how we acquire that information. "I have no issues being present for that but have no interest in interfering unless things get off topic." A second person to keep things above board was never a bad idea. "And I will follow through with my offer to Corn. Keeping each of you informed if it bares anything useful." That accounts for three mages from an already small pool.
For the investigation team then. "As chosen to be the wisest of our paths it might behove us to settle on the investigation team. Factoring in willingness of course." Where possible. "I am very hesitant to send hot headed or emotionally invested mages to look into the matter." We don't need to escalate or even create a problem. Instead his eyes turn to Philip. "If you can do the temporal investigation that would be very useful in understanding what happened if you would be willing to join the team." The enchanter had said he could but the Moros is well aware he has no authority to enforce that. "Witch is very level headed. And a member of the path in question. She would be a benefit to the investigation team." His provost was getting volunteered. He went to Skye she is to close, Guru and Eidolon are to hot headed from their speeches. Salem is I don't know. Aurora is staying here. But a Sharman would be useful. Although in his process he had eliminated three. The forth had the same issue as Skye, Corn had contacted him, but was newer and as far as the Moros new not a returning friend. "Asclepius I don't much about but he seems more levelled out. If you would be willing of course Aurora." Once more he has no say over what other paths do. Three, for a mundane investigation would be plenty but what if it is not mundane. "I am also of the mind that if you are willing Joyeuse yourself or Phoenyx are present in case this is a supernatural threat setting a trap." A pause this of course only his conclusions. "These are just my thoughts, what do the rest of you think?" Getting access to three bodies involved in a homicide was another hurdle entirely and not one he wanted to tackle without having very good reason to do so. Thus he voices no opinion on the matter.
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Joyeuse lifts a hand, making a dismissing motion at Philip's and Chambers' congratulations.
"Congratulations are not necessary," they offer plainly, their expression remaining fixed in their usual stoicism, "We have work to do."
Joyeuse listens as points are made and information shared, particularly as Chambers provides his own thinking.
"I am in full agreement with Winter doing all he can to perform his interrogation to ensure a complete account is provided regarding Corn's tragedy. It is imperative that he does so by any means necessary, given the potential threat to the Consilium," Joyeuse said, agreeing with the Moros Councilor, even on the unspoken notion of approved torture, "Should you need the time to see to your work with Corn's request, I have no qualms about observing the interrogation instead. I believe it is important for a representative of the Council to be present. Additionally, I agree that Corn should be held here within the Circle, I would recommend the Guardians be given leave to oversee his containment. However, it may also be necessary to ensure his containment with the help of the Adamantine Arrow. Given her history with him, Talon Skye may be a safe selection for such a task, though I maintain she should be instructed to allow Guardian oversight should the Council deem it necessary."
"I will be blunt. Corn's decision to go first to Talon Skye and Talon Asclepius first is, in my opinion, quite telling," they said, "I suspect I was not included in this initial conversation because Corn presumed I would have been unlikely to assist without a proper investigation. If so, he is correct in such an assumption. To be frank, I believe he is either withholding information or he understands just how little evidence he has to go on in regards to his claims."
As the conversation turns to the investigation team, Joyeuse muses over the choices for some time before speaking.
"Agreed, in this matter cooler heads will prevail. To this end, I believe we should reach an agreement as to who is barred from participating in the investigation," they continued, already making a list of whom they would rather see uninvolved, "I will trust the your judgement on Councilor Philip and Witch, as I have very little experience with either."
Looking to Aurora.
"If you wouldn't mind the interjection, I believe Talon Asclepius would be of benefit to the investigation. He bears a background as a medic, which would make him useful even in the event that utilizing magic would be ill-advised," they offer, "Given his reaction just now regarding Corn's withholding of information, I also believe he may be objective in his pursuit of the truth."
"As for the Path of the Mighty, it is within my preference that Talon Pheonyx be afforded the opportunity to join the investigation, given my own interests in overseeing Corn's interrogation and the fact that I believe she is better equipped to defend the investigators when compared to myself," they said, "I'm certain when she is made aware that Councilor Aurora and myself are aiming to remain in the Circle, she would be willing to assist. However, should Pheonyx later request my assistance, I will of course do my duty to my Order."
Looking to the middle distance, Joyeuse ran over the roster in their mind.
"To summarize, I agree with Winter utilizing the breadth of his skillset to interrogate Corn, with myself being involved to oversee the interrogation as a representative of the Council. I believe Corn should be held in the Circle for the duration, potentially in the care of the Adamantine Arrow with Talon Skye overseeing his confinement under Guardian oversight. For the investigation, I believe Councilor Philip, Witch, Talon Asclepius, and Talon Pheonyx will be sufficient to see to our concerns, with Councilor Chambers providing support via his own efforts to assist Corn. From the sound of things, Councilor Aurora and myself will remain in the Circle to see to its defense, with the potential to become involved with the investigation should either of us be contacted to assist," they said, summarizing their position, "I am, of course, open to other arguments."
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Joyeuse seemingly not accepting his praise was met with a shrug. Philip remained unphased nevertheless, and when Aurora came, she was also congratulated, as behooved one to do.
"Necessary, no. But still deserved. And besides, it seems this is the constituting session of sorts for meetings of this format. So, Aurora, for you also, congratulations on being chosen as Councilor."
He then turned to the matter at hand.
”Sure, I suppose I could help when I have time.”
he reiterated once again.
Skye`s loud voice, but especially her message, got another frown. Apparently Corn had added another lie to the list and was again called out for it by her. Again.
And so the inconsistencies continue to grow.
before Corn adds more fuel to the fire and massively increases the list of inconsistencies with his next words.
What was that? Corn apologised for, what exactly? Being incompetent? Casting into doubt everything he was saying by saying he was confused, and casting it even more into doubt with his `apology`? Not saying anything would have been better than this `mea culpa` at that point! Or whatever that was supposed to be. Good riddance! And now he basically admits he is so unreliable the three Arrows he contacted should be asked to confirm everything he said or didn`t? And `think more clearly later`? As if that would make a difference. Everything said in the `now` matters. And everything he says in the future will probably be viewed through the lens of what was said now. Or, not probably. Definitely.
Exasperatedly Philip nodded when it was said that it would be best for any representative of the council to be present. It was sensible, if Chambers had other things to do, Joyeuse was another councillor after all. Aurora had stated her desire to stay put and Salem hadn`t said anything yet. And speaking of other things to do, he gave Chambers a nod too.
Then, Joyeuse got a frown of confusion.
"Wait a minute, Guardians? Has St. George returned? If he has, I haven`t seen him in a while. If not, wouldn`t that tax Witch keeping a round-the-clock watch on Corn being over all responsible for his containment while also joining the investigation team?"
And then, Joyeuse surprised him again, although he managed to keep it internal this time although they really irked him. Clearly, his lack of interactions with other mages was becoming a problem, although he knew several of them only for a relatively short time. Why would they have to trust Chambers` judgement about me in the first place, if they can form their own opinions about me directly? And I don`t like being talked about in third person when I`m literally standing right next to them.
Aurora got a questioning look, whether she would accept Joyeuse`s request when the question turned to Talon Asclepius.
”As for the group to handle the interrogation, that seems a good idea. Yeah, I have no objections, as long as a report is provided on what is revealed. Chambers and Joyeuse, I`d say you two can work out amongst yourselves which one of you joins Winter, as long as we do have a representative of this council with the interrogation.”
He then paused, for a bit.
"As for the investigation. As I indicated, time-permitting, I`d like to join it. Agreed, having Talon Phoenyx join the investigation is a prudent idea, Councilor Joyeuse. So, that makes myself, Talon Phoenyx, Talon Ascepius if Councilor Aurora agrees, and Witch for the investigation. And one of you two and Winter for the interrogation? I`d say that just about covers that, unless there`s anything further or any objections? So, do we have further points to discuss?”
gesturing to Joyeuse, Chambers and Aurora respectively. Still, Philip was against torture, Joyeuse`s words of seemingly allowing Winter to interrogate Corn by any means necessary, weighed heavily, and he understood the implication. But he had to weigh that against the inconsistencies Corn was constantly saying and the good of the Consilium to get the truth out of Corn. If it was a supernal issue, lives were at stake, after all. Even more than Corn`s sleeper connections already at stake or dead. And Corn would not be allowed to endanger anyone else from the Consilium. Or at least not on Philip`s watch, so he did not speak out against this.
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Head nods a single time, “It’s why we have the cells is it not? We place him in one to make sure we are able to keep an eye on him, both for his safety and for security reasons.” Sounded like not a huge thing to her.
More agreement, “I agree, emotions should be kept out of this as much as possible. I know it is asking a lot of some to set those emotions aside, but some need to learn it will cloud their judgement and only lead to a larger problem for us as a whole. Someone blinded by emotions tends to act irrationally and without thought.” Harsh? Maybe? But she didn’t feel she was wrong.
When Chambers begin listing who he felt would be best for the investigation, she wasn’t surprised when he mentioned Asclepius. Skye and Corn had an obvious friendship, and Guru seemed a bit too emotional about the whole thing. She hadn’t wanted to discuss who was going and who wasn’t, but here they were. “The times I’ve talked with him, he seems to have a very level head on his shoulders. If he wants to help with the investigation, I have no problem with it. Just know I’m not going to force someone into an investigation if they don’t want to be in it.” That wasn’t how she did things.
“Given that both Orders are historically seen as the protectors and, well, guardians, of the Awakened, I have no issues allowing them both to oversee the containment. I only ask that if assistance is needed, that the other Councilors are considered as capable.” Sacramento was small, as were the Orders, they needed to help each other.
A sigh, “Can’t lie, I have to agree with that statement.” It was quite telling, it showed that Corn and Skye had a close friendship. “I share the same belief that information is being withheld, and I hope Winter, or even the investigation, is able to find out what that is exactly before someone gets hurt or worse.” Because she would hold him responsible. “Because then that takes this to a whole new level in my opinion.” Then his bullshit hurt an Awakened.
Nodding at the assessment, “I don’t mind at all, and I’m in agreement, if he’s agreeable to joining, then consider him part of the investigation team.” She had already said she wouldn’t force anyone. But she also felt she needed to talk to Guru.
“Having fought beside her, I can say she is extremely capable of defending the investigators. She is one of the few I trust with my life.” Then another sigh, her first Mastery wasn’t a huge secret, “And should my skills as a Life Master be needed in the field, I will be there.”
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Status x2 cast of scribe final name, reconfigure Imago, reimagine imagoAll things considered it was good progress for the small amount of time they had. He could comment on a great many things, pull apart certain logic or just add a compounding agreement to others but time didn't given him that luxury. "Okay then, the investigation team of Witch, Philip, Phoenyx and Asclepius. Providing they are all able and willing. So we need to get on ensuring that and getting the team into action." And that would fall to each councillor. Easiest for Philip I guess.
As for his wayward path mate. "Corn remains in he cells. To be interrogated by Winter." Joyeuse's offer was well meaning but. "It is a member of the path of doom who has caused this issue it is only right I am present at the interrogation Councillor Joyeuse. Nothing prevents you also being in attendance. But I will be." And two could well fell like an over commitment of resources. "And under the watch of the constant Guardians and arrows as time permits." They were not a large group so splitting round the lock watch made a good degree of sense.
Looking between the councillors. "I think that sums up the key elements of what we have said between us." A few secondary points that did not bear repeating had been missed yes. But did he need to repeat Aurora was a life master and on call if needed? No he did not think so.
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