VtR Questions and Scene Talk

[Benji]

two Neonates with BP 1 squaring off against the Prince with BP 4, and her right hand lady who has been around since the founding of the site is simply suicide. If you're going to argue the laws of the jungle, a predator with BP 4 scares the hell out of BP 1. This is the equivalent of field mouse challenging a hawk. It's simply going to be eaten.

Here's the thing, Predator's taint? it's not Nightmare. It only pings a fear check when you get surprised by an unexpected vampire, that's the only actual situation where the beast can seize control over you and force your into a fight or flight response outside of an actual Frenzy check. Predator's taint doesn't make you unaware of your actual combat ability, and in this case, both of the BP 1 vamps are excellent warriors, as other combat threads have shown.

Asa had to deal with neonates mouthing off all the time. At one point there was even a torpor closet for them and it got added to every court. Eventually it got so bad that he made the "don't talk to me unless i want you to talk to me" law so he wouldn't have to deal with mouthy neonates, and they still mouthed off to people. I'm arguing that this is how vampire society IS, and that in a room with four alpha personalities like this, when they aren't on the same page and neither side is interested in backing down, this is what ends up happening.

If blood potency alone was enough to cow younger vampires, then vampire society would be an entirely different beast. But elders are constantly worried that the younger generations are going to overthrow them and suck out their hearts. That's why they keep the neonates under their thumbs so much.

[Benji]

Man if "making trash toons" was a dealbreaker for the site, so many people over the site's history wouldn't have been able to play.

[Psychangel]

Maybe next time I can actually have a nice conversation with Mable and then have another one! It's a little sad that's never happened. With Niamh things were just beginning of their relationship, and same with Izzy and Mable.

Hopefully the next character will be one that Mable will be able to build a friendship with or at least a working relationship.

[Benji]

As I have coined the term, I'll define it. Trash toon is a synonym for being a troublemaker with low XP and low expectations of lifespan.

Thats like 90% of the toons that have been made on the site in it's lifespan. Good, long term toons stand out because they're comparatively rare.

Also, I'd suggest that it's less "a low expectation of lifespan" and a realization that "the toon i made isn't a good fit for the IC/OOC culture that exists"

[Benji]

I would disagree! Part of the topic is "you are just stirring shit to stir shit and it makes your toons bad toons".

What it looks like people are saying, to me at least, is that, out of four toons in a scene, only two of them should have to walk back their established characterization. No one seems to be suggesting that the Prince should decide that she doesn't want to push this situation to the point of open combat.

Everyone wants people to compromise, until they're the ones who have to compromise.